Wednesday, June 6, 2007

10 things that lead to a conclusion about pick 5

1) Here are the players the Boston Celtics are probably looking at in the upcoming draft:

Corey Brewer
Mike Conley, Jr.
Jeff Green
Spencer Hawes
Al Horford
Yi Jianlian
Joakim Noah
Al Thornton
Brandan Wright
Julian Wright

2) Right away I want to eliminate these guys from consideration no matter where the Celtics choose: Hawes, Conley, and Julian Wright.

3) If the Celtics trade down they could choose either Thornton or Noah. But at 5, you can eliminate those two as well.

4) If the Celtics keep the 5th pick there are four real possiblities, maybe five. Three bigs, and I guess two wings:

Brandan Wright
Horford
Yi
Green
and possibly Brewer

5) Having said that, I don't really see Brewer (especially after measurements) as so outstanding that he can overcome the team's whopping positional needs. You go with best player available, but if it's really close, position is the determining factor. Plus if you draft Brewer aren't you saying slamming the door on Gerald Green? (I'm not ready to do that and I don't think the Celtics are either.)

6) So let's eliminate Brewer. Here's who's left:

Brandan Wright
Horford
Yi
Green

7) By the time the 5th pick comes around, one or two of those guys will be gone; and two or three of those guys will still be on the board. Jeff Green will almost surely be available. (Barring trades, Green will definitely be there for Boston if they want him. He duplicates half the players on Atlanta's roster and he duplicates Gay in Memphis.)

Here's some factors to consider:

--Conley. Atlanta needs a point. Memphis needs a point. Portland or someone else might want Conley enough to trade above Milwaukee for him. (Though trading that high will be tough.)
If Conley is taken at 3 or 4, the Celtics are helped.

--Horford. Realistically, he's the least likely guy to be available at 5. He's strong; his measurements eliminated size doubts; he's skilled. He's probably not great but he's surely good, and he fills Memphis' other need aside from point. in other words there's a high probability he'll be gone before 5.

8) That leaves three players: Brandan Wright, Yi, or Green.

Every draftee gets heavily scrutinized and gets a buzz going, negative or positive before the draft. Wright's negative buzz has come pretty early so he has plenty of time to turn that around. Workouts will be key for him.


9) Unless Green just ABSOLUTELY makes the Celtics picture themselves on a boat on a river, with tangerine trees and marmalade skies- THAT LEAVES YI. For some time I have thought Yi is being targeted by Boston. There have been many bits of information saying the Celtics have a huge interest in this guy. There is little reason to doubt that it's all true.

Then came the surprising news that Yi skipped not only the physical workouts, but the measurements too! That means Yi will refuse to work out for teams he doesn't want to go to, and you can safely bet Atlanta and Memphis are among them.

I doubt he will avoid Boston. (Remember Yi's close personal encounter with Celtic's Esquire, and his positive words about the our beloved franchise?) Boston is a big market team where (if Yi's a player) he could easily step right in as the Celtics have an enormous need for a long agile guy.

Why else skip measurements?: BECAUSE his measurements are off the charts! Why else hide them? He's not short and slow!!

Yi does not want a team like Atlanta to have those statistics in front of them and choose him ANYWAY. (Reports are he's incredibly long and very nifty for a big man.) So he avoided giving ANY reason he could for what he considers undesirable franchises to choose him.


10) This leads to trade scenarios: (We have renentered the Dirk Zone.) No one is complaining about landing Pierce with the 10th pick way back when, but Nowitzki turned out even better. Nelson traded to get him (giving up a shot at Tractor Traylor! How could he?).

Here it is years later and behold, Yi's name has been linked to Nelson's Warriors plus the Chicago Bulls.

Why I don't think either will be able to trade ahead of Boston: This is not exactly the same situation as 1998 where all you had to do was move up to the 9th position. Moving up to the 3rd or 4th spot is much more difficult. Chicago will try, but they won't mess with their core and without doing so, it won't be enough. I don't see Golden State tempting either Memphis or Atlanta with spare parts either.


So once again I see it going something like this:

Atlanta: Wright or Conley or Horford (in that order)
Memphis: Horford or Conley
Boston: Yi

9 comments:

SuperDeluxe said...

Gant, let me be the first to congratulate you for this blog. It was long overdue, and it's already bookmarked on my Firefox. With a little help from some friends, only10things.blogspot.com should be a huge success.

Great reading as usual, by the way.

Best of luck,

SuperDeluxe

Jeff said...

nice job Gant

Gant said...

Thanks Superdeluxe and Jeff and anyone else who comes by to read my ramblings. I greatly appreciate all the positive feedback I've received over at realgm.

It was very kind of Jeff to post a notice about the launch of this seedling blog. I have a few twists planned and I'll try to bring some of those ideas to life pretty quickly here.

Scott said...

Good read

MD said...

Nice blog, wish I found it sooner!

Gant said...

Ha ha. Thanks md, but you couldn't have found it much sooner. This blog is only about 40 hours old.

Those older articles are back dated to when they were orignally posted on realgm- just so there would be a few things to read until I get going.

MD said...

Ah, you caught me! I hadn't gotten around to reading the older articles when I commented.

John said...

This is what I have been saying for about a month now. I live in Atlanta and no one here is talking about Yi. There is tremendous pressure on Atlanta to take a PG and also big pressure on them to bring in a known commodity that will generate some local interest. Yi fits neither description.

Considering the draft failures in the past, is there anyone on the board who looks more like a classic "Atlanta pick" than Wright? Big, talented but fatally flawed but from a Southeastern basketball powerhouse? Yeah that about covers it. I bet Atlanta takes Wright. Furhter, Atlanta can get AC Law at 11 and still fill their PG needs.

It makes no sense for Memphis to take Yi when they have Gasol. They need toughness down low. How many sharp shooting 7 footers can you have? Now that Horford has turned out to be as tall as advertised, I can't beleive he won't go to Memphis.

That leaves Boston with Yi. Also, don't discount the possibility that Danny drafts Conley and then forces one of the teams below him to trade up and then takes Yi in the 6 to 10 range. I really think Yi is the guy.

greenlove said...

I think its Yi, Brewer or Hortford that are the 3 we're really looking at at pick 5. Agreed that Hortford is probably gone. Atlanta could take Yi, Memphis could take Brewer. If both are there for me it is tough because I don't think Yi would play center for the Celts and Al's natural position is 4. So Brewer could be 2 or 3 and Yi could play 3 or 4 with Al at 5. Brewer has defense, Yi has offense.